Earth suits

Introduction

I came across a remark that equated our physical bodies to spacesuits. My immediate reaction was “That’s silly, why not Earth suits?”

This random thought arose from a mess of influences in my mind in the past few months. The idea that ET might be interdimensional. The idea that our reality is the product of multiple minds in a massive co-creation. And the meaning of idea of being human. 

There’s an old saying from my hippy days – We are not physical beings having a spiritual experience but spiritual beings having a physical experience.

So, does being human sit on the spirit side the physical side? Is it a fusion of both? Strictly speaking it seems that human is physical in its original meaning – from humus, apparently. This means we have an essentially materialistic conception of being human – even if it has a religious foundation as well. In Christian terms human creation is certainly physical – red clay. But Genesis has two creations.  The first not being physical. Now I am not suggesting Genesis is history – just a story with complex themes. 

The alternative story is that we are incarnating spirits – essentially inter-dimensional beings whose presence in this physical world is anchored via our donning of an Earth suit. 

We become human when we are wearing our Earth suit. 

Evolutionary biology and psychology tell us useful things about our primate Earth suits. Just in case you struggle with this notion I’d like to remind you that tech geeks dream of creating smart clothing – perpetuating our passion to animate our creations. The idea of a living organic ‘suit’ is not utterly ridiculous. 

The thing about one’s Earth suit being homo sapiens is that it’s essential behaviour is reasonable consistent with our spiritual needs. The fit isn’t perfect – just a reasonable one. However, cognitive science suggests to some that our ‘stone-age’ primate minds are ill-suited to our ‘space-age’ circumstances. Looks like we might have to inject more ‘spirit’ into the flesh.

Another useful observation is that when we dress, we often signal identity. This is true especially when we put on uniforms. Advertisers know putting an actor in a lab coat will make them appear credible sources of ideas about a product. So, donning an Earth suit triggers an identification with others in their Earth suits.

My purpose here is to disrupt our habituated thinking, not to push an idea.

Why an Earth suit?

This question is often answered in myriad unsatisfactory ways that conform to dogmas rather than meet skeptical needs. 

Stewart Edward White, in the Unobstructed Universe. notes that the material physical experience is obstructed. In the spirit of time flying when we are having fun, being in one’s Earth suit isn’t fun. Time plays out relatively slowly. Buddhism talks of escaping desire and the wheel of rebirth – the aspiration to not feel it is necessary to don an Earth suit. Identification isn’t essential, though it might be compulsive.

Robert Monroe observed myriad spirits clamouring to enter the physical realm in order to experience ‘sensation’ in that slowed down state. Christianity echoes Buddhism in the sense of attending to the aspiration to escape desire and ignoble conduct. It also has a lot of guilt associated with its teachings. 

The consensus is that we are here in our Earth suits for ‘sensation’ but we become so immersed in that craving we lose track of our essential nature and purpose. We must redeem ourselves.

I think this is wrong headed. The Genesis story gives an explanation in a moral sense because doing so works psychologically – to a degree. Myth isn’t history. Stories serves purposes in context.

It’s all much more complex than that. The material physical reality is a medium of experience. It is one among many. Some argue we visit other non-material realms routinely. I can say only that I have had not many conscious experiences of such, and none have been evidentiary. Its hence only a plausible idea to me.

A useful parallel might be our relationship with water. Whether we dive, swim or sail there are ways of behaving that aren’t the same as being on dry land. There are skills and strengths that particular to the water medium and which are not directly translatable to dry land – but confer benefits which may be utilized on dry land. 

The point is that functioning in a radically different medium can be beneficial. In White’s sense water is more obstructive than air yet you can do things in water you can’t do in air – like float. 

It’s hard to answer a ‘why?’ question other than to observe that there seem to be multiple dimensions with their own characteristics. Material reality has attributes others don’t. So, if you want to be well rounded getting experience across the range of environments is advantageous. 

If what we understand about the necessity of sleep in relation to our psychological wellbeing it could be that we need to engage with non-physical realities to stay psychologically healthy. Hanging up our Earth suit and enjoying being naked might be something important?

We are focused on what we see through our Earth suit because that is sensible. If we are diving in water, it makes sense to concentrate on where we are rather than what’s going on in the air or on the ground – unless this is relevant to where we are. 

My point here to observe that how things are for us might be entirely ordinary from a certain perspective, but we have been induced to think in complex and mysterious ways that make it all so very elaborate. 

Shamans who go on spirit journeys have a singular ability which is remarkable to others, but this doesn’t mean that where they go is inherently remarkable. 

Likewise conscious OOBErs are relatively uncommon but that doesn’t mean the experience is itself remarkable or the places they go are inherently out of the ordinary. 

The mystification we are used to arises, I believe, for several reasons. 

The first is that the ability to have experiences in the non-physical realms may be limited in terms of personal capacity. The experience is non-ordinary rather than extraordinary. Natural, not supernatural. 

Second this politics of perception and social conformity. The difference between genuine shamans and ordained priests is that latter have the influence of the former upon a given population but not necessarily the capability. Hence the non-ordinary is subject to obfuscation to preserve influence and control that is not merited. 

The third resulting from the second, is there are social structures and discourses that benefit those seeking power. This power comes from elaborating on mysteries or denying them. Mystification is a power game intended to distract, deflect and deflate.

What is our environment?

What we can sense via our Earth suits is very limited relative to what is possible even on the physical plane. Other creatures use ultrasound, infrared or ultraviolet ranges of the spectrum of senses. Indeed, even a casual survey of capabilities of other Earth creatures reminds us that we function within a narrow band of sensory and other bodily capabilities. 

We make a big thing about people with other than normal abilities – intelligence, strength, speed, artistry and so on. 

Over the past half century or so we have become aware of how complex and interconnected our physical environment is. Other sciences are driving our sense of the complexity of reality deeper and deeper. 

Materialistic science insists that what is real is only what can be sensed, including via the mediation of technologies and intellect. Hence there’s a restriction on how our inquiry progresses.

Despite efforts to insist otherwise our religious foundations are soundly rooted in Earth suit experience. They claim authority over the non-physical which is not warranted. 

So, what is beyond the sensory Earth suit awareness? Our Earth suit bias extends our imagination into ‘outer space’ and the seemingly unfathomable dimensions of physical reality. We struggle with the notion of a quantum reality. But interdimensional realities are not on our menu of respectable options.

Human consciousness has always understood the presence of an ecology of lives inhabiting a non-material dimension. But this authoritative information is not part of our cultural narrative. This is despite an abundance of accounts of such extra-dimensional experiences going back to ancient times and richly in the present. 

This absence from our cultural narrative is recent, and primarily because neither religious nor materialistic authorities want to adapt to their inevitable loss of power should this wider dimensional reality become accepted as a cultural truth. 

If Earth ecology is any guide the non-physical dimensions are just as complex. This is a guess on my behalf based on research and experience. It is inferred rather than asserted as a fact.

What does interdimensional mean?

Let us allow that reality is inherently interdimensional. That is the physical is inherently entangled with the non-physical.  We might then be thinking in terms of awareness of what is, rather than what is in absolute terms. The full spectrum of realities exists whether we are aware of it or not.

The complexity of physical ecologies didn’t emerge because we became aware of it. It was there all along. We are becoming more aware of that complexity partly through advances in science and partly through changes in attitude.

Shamans, OOBErs, and evidence from non-physical agents provide at least fundamental evidence of the interdimensionality of our reality. It is basic, at least at a public level. Who knows how sophisticated it is in private.

The idea that ET is interdimensional can provide us with the idea of an unsensed elsewhere – but not as though this suggests a vastness of nothing between our here and that unsensed elsewhere. It could rather be a vastness of complexity – such as exists between Sydney and Paris.

Conclusion

I have no doubt that interdimensional interaction is going to become more apparent, but how long before it becomes part of our normal cultural discourse isn’t something I can’t guess at with any confidence.

We have natural habits of editing out thoughts that don’t fit our expectations. We have all had intuitions we dismissed when they arose in our awareness, only to be later confirmed experientially.

Part of that habit of dismissing awarenesses is how we frame ideas, and the language we use. We can act to fix habits of mind and accidentally activate denial when we what we intended was doubt. What we need is curiosity unencumbered habituated thinking.

I have lived with a steady stream of confirmation of a complex interdimensional reality since childhood, and even so I have been captured by our sticky cultural discourse. This has led me to wrongly imagine there are separated fixed categories of experience. It’s been only the past few years that I have been thinking in terms of ordinary and non-ordinary rather than categories like spiritual, occult, or esoteric.

Interdimensionality is our birthright. It was once normal and still is in some cultures. We are interdimensional beings. Our bodies, our Earth suits, are our vehicles of manifestation on the material plane. Our attention is focused here, through those Earth suits when we are awake and active. When we are asleep, not so much.

We exclude interdimensional awareness mostly because we are told it isn’t real or isn’t a good thing to do. It is real and it is something we engage in to some degree naturally. There are hazards, of course, if we indulge recklessly or excessively.

My argument here is to think differently about it and don’t censor awareness reflexively. Choose freely, and wisely. 

This is not a contest 

Introduction

The passions of the past 3 or 4 years as articulated in social media especially have obliged me to reimagine the basis of relating and communicating. 

A few years ago I was an active participate in a forum created by the Skeptiko podcast but quit with a few allies after the culture of the forum deteriorated beyond our capacity for tolerance. For me it became a place where aggressive intolerant and dogmatic participants were given free reign and assertive and offensive counters to reasonable statements were deemed appropriate. At least that was my take on it, in company with a lot of other folks.

One of those allies went on to be involved in the creation of Psience Quest [PQ] – an alternative forum which attracted other Skeptiko refugees. They reflected on the motives of the founders of the new forum saying, “We set up PQ to safeguard the community, putting its future into our own hands, and taking it out of the hands of a singular, capricious host.”

The idea that a community needed protecting isn’t novel, it’s just rare to see it working out.

Social media seemed to have so much promise as an opportunity for a collaborative sharing of ideas but it seems to have become an amplifier of our baser reflexes and a stalking ground for predators. I have largely quit social media in deep disappointment. My X/Twitter account has languished unused for over a decade. My Facebook account is likewise abandoned. I have no compelling reason yet to kill either account. 

I have retained Linked-In for professional reasons, but it’s hardly more than a kind social network with job ads these days. 

Last year I read several books on X/Twitter and the problems of social media. The vociferous champions of free speech aggressively assert their rights to lie, mislead, insult and abuse. 

I am not averse to a right to free speech, but I think it comes with responsibilities. These include civility and honesty.

I know a lot of what happened on the Skeptiko forum was down to folks sitting down at their computer and getting steadily drunker. Angry drunks get ruder as they drink. But happy drunks don’t – they just get infuriatingly reasonable – a red rag to an angry drunk’s bull.

Social media has simply concentrated and magnified an existing problem. Our culture has determined that what we think and believe is a contest, rather than a collaboration. We are habituated to the zero-sum game of right or wrong.

This is, I believe psychologically immature – and its time we grew up. 

Having said this, let me assure the reader that I see myself as having only begun the business of growing up.

What is going on?

I believe free speech is vital – but in some communities its exercise has grated against my sensibilities.  I have a bias toward speech that is truthful and respectful – exploratory rather than assertive. And I have a bias toward people who are self-reflective, thoughtful, and not impelled by arrogance or anger – or a compulsion to be right. 

What is true or right isn’t as clear cut as we often think. Certainty at a personal level does not always translate to certainty shared by all members of a community. 

We know this in our families. The psychology of in-groups and out-groups is such that we give far greater latitude to in-group members. We assert that out-group members are wrong in so many ways.

Sometimes it isn’t that an idea is the dealbreaker of a relationship so much as the attitude that accompanies it. We sometimes don’t even bother to assess the integrity of an idea because its mere assertion militates against what we believe to be true – regardless of whether we have assessed that belief against data and reasoned thought.

We frame arguments to defend a belief in ways that serve our needs, rather than tailor them to reasonably convince our audience. And when they are not persuaded, we are certain that this because of their deficits in mentality and integrity, and certainly not in our arguments or the belief they are intended to bolster.

After several years of thinking about belief I concluded that it comes down to what we imagine to be true and then we construct social and intellectual props to support that assertion.

Recently my inquiry into cognitive science and evolutionary anthropology has given me confidence I am least in the right ballpark.

If we don’t understand how and why we form beliefs, we will not escape from the sense that they are fundamental to our sense of being and meaning and hence must be defended with an existential zeal.

In our evolution we lived in communities where shared beliefs and values were critical to our survival. These days we still do need shared beliefs and values to craft a workable society – but at nowhere the level that was once necessary. Now we can accommodate a far wider, more diverse, set of beliefs about the meaning of life etc. We live in complex, pluralistic and diverse communities and yet the essential mechanisms of living together work tolerably well. I was advised many years ago to marvel that things work as well as they do, rather than lament the manifold manifest deficits in our conception and practice. 

I constantly remind myself of the wise words of Tom Peters, a ‘management guru’ I first encountered in the late 1980s. He said that we lived in a ‘sloppy and messy’ world. This,  I subsequently discovered, was an unexpectedly eloquent [but hardly elegant] description of reality – deeply complex and malleable – but with crunchy bits that attract sentiments of certainty. 

Contestation has value in aspects of our lives. However, misinterpretation of evolution has led some to believe that competition is the pervasive and dominant impulse in nature. It isn’t. Interdependence is the norm. Competition functions under the umbrella of interdependence – the crunchy bits.

Kuhn’s lament that science’s progress is only possible one funeral at a time is telling. It makes me wonder how much more progress might have been made if our dominant actors on our cultural stage had been more psychologically mature and less inclined to assert their particular beliefs. It’s as if there is a paradox at play. The passion and determination to rise to the top of one’s field often requires the fuel of egotism – and this becomes part of the colour of success. Combatting egos fool us into believing they model how to do things. Observers of our primate cousins note that alpha males aren’t leaders in any sensible sense – they are just dominant. We can see that in our culture that dominant egos have sold us the lie that they are leaders. We are beginning also to see that their egotistical chest thumping has led us into a perilous cul-de-sac.

Frank and fearless

My long time in the public sector made me accustomed to being expected to offer frank and fearless advice – which I tried to honour. It was expected my advice would be well-informed, accurate, clear, and respectful. But the reality was that it was often not received in a reciprocating spirit. And advice I was given occasionally was neither frank nor fearless – and often wrong and biased. I learned to carefully double check advice from some sources. 

The ideal was fine, but, as with many ideals, living up to it was compromised by human impulses unconsciously obeyed. It doesn’t take too deep a dive into psychology to grasp that we deceive ourselves and others routinely. This isn’t out of any malign spirit. We simply have reflexes that have evolved to serve our needs – but in settings very unlike what live in now.

The ideal and reality don’t mesh neatly. Frank and fearless advice has theoretical merits. But if that ideal is applied injudiciously in the real world, it can and will lead to trouble. A person who now is a good friend was a member of a team I led. One day a director approached me to advise that I should speak to my team member who they assessed to be ‘unreliable’ in meetings. They had dared ask questions which put the director and other leaders on the spot. The questions were entirely sensible. But they also violated the unspoken code of not embarrassing leaders.

So, we had a chat about what happens when intelligence and integrity encounters presumptions of prowess based entirely on position. We had to learn how to candy-coat the truth to power if we wanted to deliver good outcomes for the community we served and survive.

Raw idealism does not work.

Competition vs Cooperation

For a very long time, since the adoption of Darwin’s theory at least, we have been persuaded that competition is the norm in the living world. But science has been unpicking that fabric for decades. Ecologies do have a natural element of competition, but within a far greater impulse to cooperate and be interdependent.

I grew up playing games – cricket, soccer, Aussie rules, chess, Monopoly, Ludo, darts, so many card games, and pool. I also played elaborate war games that lasted several days. In each game competition was essential – but only within a structure of rules and compliance with them. Ill-disciplined competition in the form of cheating was not okay.

I am grateful for the life lessons game playing taught me. I learned to analyze situations, assess people, think strategically and bide my time.

We are told that a certain amount of stress is good for us, indeed it is essential for our well-being. It is very much like competition. Game playing is possible only because of the rules. We can use games to test ourselves or to dominate others – and if domination is our goal, we will try to have the rules favour us. You can see where this might go if the urge to compete is pathological.

What we are learning more and more via science and more mature thinking is that our reality is a complex of interdependencies and collaborations in which competition is a nuanced but necessary flavor.

Why does any of this matter in a spiritual sense

I started to write this on 21 January 2025, the day before my birthday and the anniversary of my mum’s death – an interesting timing that has been elegantly revolutionary over the past 27 years. It has routinely plunged me into deep thought. On the first anniversary my mother’s spirit visited me and gave me a gift of an understanding that transformed my life. This year that reflective period continued into February.

There are already signs that this year is going bring transformational developments that going to change the way many will think about their lives. But those developments can shift us into transcending the impulse to contest what is real and good and true or tip us into full on conflict. There’s no point in saying that ‘we have a choice’ if we don’t know how to exercise it. And it’s going to be less likely we will take the opportunity to find out how to do so if the climate of aggressive assertion of the right to lie, mislead and insult is perpetuated.

The choice we have is to decide whether we are predominantly competitors or collaborators. Even deciding we are predominantly collaborators isn’t enough because we have likely imbibed a lifetime of culturally conditioned competition habits. Deconditioning ourselves is a big and long job. Being aware is an essential beginning though.

Let me put this in context. Today I found 2 sources of ideas that I tapped into in the past few days converging. I started listening to a podcast called The Telepathy Tapes yesterday and watching some recent UFO/ET videos as well. The content of both sources resonated with ideas from David R. Samson’s Our Tribal Future. Samson is an evolutionary anthropologist who observes that our innate psychological reflexes are mismatched against our current social reality and that we need to do intentional work to speedily adapt those reflexes to how things are now.

It’s not that we are doing anything wrong, just that we are lagging behind where we need to be in our adaptation if we want to achieve the outcomes that we desire without more widespread suffering than seems presently likely.

I am a fan of that idea that critical change is achieved one funeral at a time. Younger generations imbibe the new values that are generated by cultural change activists. I can see this happening in my own family. It’s not a smooth transition but the difference in outlook between my parents and my nieces and nephews, and my grandson is stark.

But those changes have happened only because the cultural change activists have undertaken intentional efforts to evolve how they think and believe. Neuroscience tells us that such change is demanding. In the storm of our personal lives the extra cognitive effort to refine our perceptions and feelings is a cost we must pay.

We all know this is true. Keeping new year’s resolutions, breaking habits, sticking to diets, or adopting and following a new belief set all demand cognitive [emotional and intellectual] effort to change how we are to how we want to be. It isn’t easy, but the change won’t happen without the effort. 

For the past 20 months or so I have been responding to an inner urge to think and write on the theme of the future of human spirituality. I wondered whether it was necessary to sayhuman spirituality – and apparently it is. The reason is dawning on me slowly as I find myself drawn to books on the evolution of the biology of our behaviour. This isn’t an area many people with an abiding interest matters spiritual have bothered with. The doggedly materialistic voice that has dominated science has made such curiosity seem pointless from a spiritual perspective.

But things have changed. The newer generations of scientists may be influenced by materialism, but they haven’t grown up loyal to it and they are not cowed by it. They are asking more subtle questions and finding equally subtle responses.

A few days ago, I watched a YouTube video earnestly discussing a biblical text said to be at least 3,000 years old. Why? Why invest so much energy into a text whose actual content had nothing of meaning to say to us? It seemed to me that this was a fusion of game playing and displacement activity. It had value only in the context of the group of people who have a passion for this hobby.

Where we finding meaning about the challenges and opportunities ahead of us matters. I have spent decades seeking insight in sources from the past. This has been an immensely rewarding pursuit and I still engage in it, but to a far lesser degree. 

What seems now a better application of effort is exploring current knowledge – of which there is such an abundance. Little of this knowledge is expressed in ways that satisfy the needs of a spiritual quester, so there’s a job to be done.

My growing interest concerns what it means to be human. It is a question that has become enticingly difficult to answer with any real clarity. I want to craft my own answer because I do believe that we will share an awareness of those we presently call ET in the not very distant future – and I want to be psychologically prepared for that. I presently think ET is interdimensional and their open arrival will transform how we must think about our reality.

In a recent audiobook or podcast there was a fleeting reference to a claimed statement from the Buddha about how reality was woven from the interlacing of the consciousnesses of many lives. That claim sent me off on a fascinating reverie, hence I am no longer sure where it came from.

This is, of course, a very animistic thing but the version I am more familiar with says that ‘we’ create reality with our minds. The ‘we’ here is taken to mean only humans. We are privileging ourselves as creators rather than contributors. We see ourselves major and even dominant players when, in the scheme of things, we may be only players of lesser roles and not the stars of the show.

In the biblical drama humans are the stars on the earthly stage. In a desert setting that might be fair enough. But that’s not the case for forest and jungle dwellers. We have framed our sense of being human on the tales from arid lands and I don’t think that will serve us well when we have to adapt to interdimensional visitation – and discover we live in a multidimensional forest and not a spatial wilderness.

Conclusion

I think we have a lot of hard work to do to reimagine what it is to be human. The mindset of competition being the dominant logic of life has permeated our culture. Our religious roots lie in a zero-sum soil that has been aggressively competitive – there is only one God, to whom all is subject, and we have the exclusive say on how that plays out. 

We are heirs to this mentality, and it saturates and influences us whether we like it or not. This influence goes to our core and just rejecting the language and cultural practices is only a good first step. It isn’t sufficient.

I am not saying it’s all bad. There have been powerful evolutionary impulses for good expressed through our religions, but they remain entangled in historic tribal contexts that do not suit where we are and where we must go. There’s good evidence that western cultures are abandoning institutional religions in favour of DIY spirituality or atheism and materialism. But, as with any desirable trend, it can be boosted by intentional effort.

This effort is about going in the desired direction and not about arguing whether a particular path that suits somebody’s needs is right or wrong for other people. Ultimately what we believe serves our psychological needs, so the fact that what we believe doesn’t serve somebody else’s psychological needs isn’t important. But what is important is that this is understood.

There aren’t right or wrong spiritual beliefs. Some may be unhealthy and even toxic – reflecting a vulnerable psychological state which resonates with them. The risk of predation by promoters of such beliefs upon those vulnerable to manipulation is another matter.

Beliefs may also be expressed using assertions of objective factuality that are either not supported or contradicted by data. That’s fair game in terms of disputing such claims. However, this is something that requires discipline and sensibility. Some atheists love engaging with Christians who see the Bible as a source of literal truth. But to what good end? If the engagement also denigrates their faith and their sense of identity the exercise can become a form of bullying.

In Our Tribal Future Samson observes that members of an in-group will sacrifice truth for myth because identity and shared membership are more important than relying on data and objective truth.

We all make metaphysical guesses about what we believe is good and true and real. Materialists are sincere in their beliefs and constantly demonstrate a willingness to not follow the data – lest their identity and membership of a valued group becomes untenable.

If we look closely at our own conduct, we will maybe discover that we all sacrifice truth for belonging and identity to some degree. It’s what humans do.

We are used to thinking we are the smartest critter on the planet and when we meet with ET it will be a meeting with peers. It won’t be. I have encountered a non-human intelligence, and the comparison is not even toddler to adult. We are in for a profound surprise which may translate into shock and even existential trauma of the kind experienced by indigenous people upon the arrival of white people.

As we discover interdependency and cooperation are more widespread that we assumed we can surrender to that truth – or we can cling to our culturally conditioned beliefs and our familiar sense of identity.

A list of resources

These are only books I have come across, and which have inspired me. So, the list is neither exhaustive nor proscriptive. I urge the reader to be open and curious. 

I read kindle books which I can put on my phone, and I listen to lots audiobooks because I can ‘read’ while I am doing other things. I am often told there’s no time to read much. That really isn’t true – it’s about what we choose to do with our time. I used to commute to work – 1 hour door-to-door each way. That was 2 hours a day, 10 hours a week that was available to me. The question is what we are motivated to do with the time we have. We will make the time available that we think we need. Reading isn’t a competition. It’s a collaboration with our own inner life.

  • Biology and Human Behaviours:                     
  • The Neurological Origins of Individuality by Robert M. Sapolsky
  • Becoming Kin by Patty Krawec and Nick Estes
  • A Secular Age by Charles Taylor
  • The Power of Us by J.V. Van Bavel & D. J. Packer
  • Imminent by Luis Elizondo
  • A New Science of the Afterlife by Daniel Drasin
  • Tribal by Michael Morris
  • The Holographic Universe by Michael Talbot
  • The Soul by Paul Ham
  • The Golden Road by William Dalrymple
  • Cognitive Science, Religion, and Theology by Justin L. Barrett
  • Thriving with Stone-Age Minds by Justin L. Barrett   & Pamela Ebstyne King
  • Behave by Robert M. Sapolsky
  • Finding the Mother TreeUncovering the Wisdom and Intelligence of the Forest by Suzanne Simard
  • The Light Eaters by Zoe Schlanger
  • Thus Spoke the Plant by Monica Gagliano
  • Our Tribal Future by David R. Samson
  • The Telepathy Tapes – a podcast with Ky Dickens
  • The Monroe Institute – YouTube Channel
  • NDE The Other Side – YouTube Channel
  • Ideas – CBC podcast
  • To the Best of Our Knowledge – Wisconsin Public Radio